FAQ's (5/12/10)


What is the Lime Lake Cottage Owners Association


An Association formed with the following objectives:

*  To mutually benefit the members of the LLCOA and the protection of owners' property on or near the shores of Lime Lake.

 *To provide facilities for the better enjoyment of members' properties and their tenants, and to work in cooperation with each other in the furtherance of lawful pursuits, beneficial to the members of the association, in respect to their interests, both socially and economically, as neighbors and owners or lessees of property in the Lime Lake community.

*  To improve and cause to be improved the community of Lime Lake as a summer and winter resort.

*  To suggest and aid in the enforcement of present and future laws relating to Lime Lake.

 * To provide social and athletic recreation for its members and promote all lawful sports upon Lime Lake.


The  Association  meets these objectives through its Board of Directors.

The Board of Directors of the LLCOA oversees many tasks and activities, including:

 * Coordination of water quality testing and monitoring and management of fish population by the NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation (DEC).

 * Purchase and application of agents to control weed growth in the lake.

 * Controlling water levels through management of the dam located at the north end of the lake.

 * Working with the Cattaraugus County Sheriff's Dept. to ensure water safety on the lake. Included are safety patrols and boater training sessions conducted at LLCOA facilities.

  *Maintenance of the Broadbay Circle playground and sports facility for the use of all members and their guests.

*  Regularly publishing the LLCOA Newsletter.

*  Managing key-access to the LLCOA boat launch on Broadbay Circle.

 * Conducting numerous social events throughout the summer (see annual schedule of events).





How do I become a member of the Lime Lake Cottage Owner's Association?


There are two classes of LLCOA members - VOTING Members and CONTRIBUTING Members. Any person can become a VOTING Member, "who is in sympathy with the purposes of the corporation and who is the owner or  spouse of a cottage or lot located on the shores of Lime Lake. A CONTRIBUTING Member must reside in or own property in the Town of Machias, NY. Contributing member applications will be reviewed by the LLCOA Board of Directors before membership is granted.

There are annual LLCOA Membership Dues. Upon payment, you will receive stickers to proudly display on your cottage, as well as copies of the printed Summer Activities Schedule.

A mailing in February of each year  will generally include: details on NYSDEC weed control and your application for membership.

Mail your check to LLCOA, P.O. Box 481, Machias, New York 14101.

There are two levels of membership: Regular $125.00 and Gold $150.00. Payment is due by May 1st every year.




Are there any New York State rules or regulations about boating, speed, water skiing, young boaters?



In New York, speed is limited to 5 mph when within 100 feet of shore, dock, pier, raft, float or anchored boat.
Through the passage of local ordinances, counties, towns and villages may regulate the speed of boats in their jurisdiction out to the distance of 1500 feet from shore.  You should check with local officials for any local regulations.

When no limits are posted, you must operate your boat so it will not endanger others.  Your boat must be able to stop safely within the clear space ahead.  A skipper is responsible for damage caused by his wake, to reduce speed when passing a marina, fishing area, work boats or similar areas.  When encountering a marine regatta or parade, transit of the area is to be made with an escort boat.  If no escort is provided, the vessels may proceed at a safe no wake speed.


On the navigable waters of New York State, all vessels when towing a water skier must have, in addition to the operator, and observer on board at all times.  This observer must be at least ten years of age.  Water skiing must be restricted during the day to between one hour after sunrise and sunset.  On the waters of the Lake George and all inland waters of Chautauqua County, a water skier must wear a USCG approved PFD or ski belt.  On all other waters, if a PFD is not worn, one shall be carried in the boat at all times for the skier.  It is recommended that skiers wear a Type III PFD at all times when water skiing.

Water skiing is a team sport.  When the operator, observer, and skier work together, water skiing can be an exciting sport.


New York State Law requires youngsters between ages 10 and 16 to obtain a safety certificate before they can operate a mechanically propelled boat alone.  To obtain this certificate, individuals must take the young boater's safety course and complete all the necessary requirements.  The course consists of eight hours of classroom instruction taught by trained volunteers.  The course and boating safety handbook are free for the youngsters taking the course.  Those over 16 years should enroll in New York State's Basic Boating Course or any other boating safety course offered throughout the state.  More information can be obtained by contacting the Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation.


1.  A power-driven vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

A vessel not under command (unable to maneuver).
A vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver.
A vessel engaged in fishing.
A sailing vessel.


2.  A sailing vessel underway shall keep our of the way of:

A vessel not under command.
A vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver.
A vessel engaged in fishing*.


3.  A vessel engaged in fishing* when underway shall so far as possible, keep out of the way of:

A vessel not under control.
A vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver.

* A vessel engaged in fishing does not include vessels fishing with trolling lines or other apparatus which does not restrict maneuverability.




Is there a map of the Lime Lake that shows bays, channels, shallows points, etc?


Map, click here




Are there any stumps and/or obstructions in Lime Lake?


Stumps and Obstructions Map, click here







Are there "courtesy boating tips" for Lime Lake?


General Direction of the boat travel on Lime Lake is counter-clockwise.

Sailboats, canoes, rowboats, and other un-powered vessels normally have the right of way.

All vessels being undertaken have the right of way.

You are legally responsible for any damage to other vessels and their occupants caused by your wake.

Do not overload your boat.

Do not operate too close to shore, rafts or swimmers.

Life preservers in your boat are a must for each occupant.

Hot-rodders BEWARE!  The law reads:  "you shall not operate any motorboat in a reckless manner so as to endanger life, limb or property of any person.  Such conduct is punishable by a fine not exceeding $2000.00 or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year, or both fine and imprisonment at the discretion of the court."





Are there recommended safe boating tips?


ˇ         People who hunt or fish from boats have one of the highest boat fatality rates.  More die from falling off boats 16 feet and smaller than larger boats, and most boats are anchored at the time.

ˇ         Be weather wise.  Sudden wind shifts, lightning flashes and choppy water all can mean a storm is brewing.  Bring a portable radio to regularly check weather reports.

ˇ         Bring extra gear you may need.  A flashlight, extra batteries, matches, a map of where you are, flares, suntan lotion, first aid kit and extra sunglasses.  Put those that need to be protected in a watertight pouch or a container that floats.

ˇ         Tell someone where you're going, who is with you and how long you'll be away.  Then check your boat, equipment, boat balance, engine and fuel supply, before leaving.

ˇ         Ventilate after fueling.  Open hatches, run blower and most important, carefully sniff for gasoline fumes in the fuel and engine area before starting your engine.

ˇ         Stay dry and warm.  Wear several layers of light clothing and bring a rainproof covering.  Never wear hip waders in a small boat.

ˇ         Keep fishing and hunting gear clean and well packed.  A loose fish hook can cause a lot of pain and ruin a great outing.  Bring an extra length of line to secure boat or equipment.

ˇ         Be ready for trouble when a powerboat passes you in a narrow channel.  As the lead boat (which always has the right of way) stay on your side of the channel and always maintain a steady speed so that the overtaking vessel can pass you safely.  Use your radio to discuss this with the passing boat.

ˇ         Anchor from the bow not the stern.  Use an anchor line length that is at least five times longer than the water depth.

ˇ         Take a safe boating course. 

ˇ         As an extra benefit, you may earn lower boat insurance cost.






Are there recommended boat trailer safety tips?



1.  Be sure that the boat is secured properly on the trailer.

2.  Inspect all lines, tie downs, and the winch.  Tighten as necessary and replace any that show signs of fraying or strand separation.

3.  Determine that all trailer lights are operating.

4.  Test the braking system.

5.  Inspect the hitch and safety chain.

6.  Check the pressure and lug bolts.

7.  Tilt and then secure the boat's motor to increase road clearance.


1.  Drive carefully, allowing for the extra length of the car and trailer when negotiating turns and when passing.

2.  Allow more time for stopping.

3.  Pull well off the road periodically and walk completely around the rig.  Examine the tires and wheel bearings for overheating, test tie-downs, and check any gear which is being carried in the boat.






Are there Rules and Regulations for swimming rafts?


The necessary specifications, markings and painting it bring your swimming raft into conformance with NYS Regulations are as follows.  Please help to ensure that boaters and fishermen will be less likely to encounter any unexpected surprises.

A review of some of the rules and regulations governing the placement of swimming and driving floats, ski jumps, etc. in NYS Controlled Waters reveals the following guidelines:

1.  The float can be placed no more than 100 feet from your property obtaining a NYS permit and adding additional safety equipment (blinking white light visible for 1/2 mile).

2.  Floats are to be painted white and contain white reflective tape on all sides, visible from any direction.

3.  Swimming floats of not more than 100 square feet of surface area.

4.  The float shall be placed in a manner which does not interfere with safe navigation or free access to another person's property.

A copy of these regulations and an application of a Floating Object Permit are on file with the Lime Lake Homeowners Association.  Other specific or technical questions can be answered by the:

 Bureau of Marine and Recreational Vehicles
Empire Plaza
Albany, NY   12238
(518) 474-0445






What is the proper way to tie my boat down? Are there special "knots"?


Insert : Need to know how to tie your boat down? Knots, Knots and more knots click here



Who do I contact to submit an article to LLCOA Newsletter?


Send entries to for review and possible inclusion.




Does the Lime Lake Cottage Owners Association have anything to do with the level of Lime Lake?


LLCOA has a trained individual who is responsible for the Weir. Throughout the year there may be lake level adjustment made. To enable cottage owners to schedule necessary work on their docks and shore lines, this and every year the boards are put in place on April 15th to cause the lake to rise to an appropriate depth for the summer months.  The boards are systematically removed beginning on November 1st, to allow the water level to recede (approx. 15") for the winter months.  Raising and lowering of the lake generally takes from 7 to 15 days depending upon coincident rainfall.



Are herbicides placed in Lime Lake on a regular basis?


To control the excessive growth of the acquatic plant species Eurasian watermilfoil, potamogeton spp.  in Lime Lake, the LLCOA proposes to conduct an application of the herbicide, Reward.

We anticipate the treatment to occur in late May or early June 2010 and will proceed only after the LLCOA obtains a permit for the treatment from the NYSDEC. This pesticide application will occur only if sufficient aquatic vegetation is present to warrant treatment and under favorable weather conditions. Prior to application the exact dates of treatment will be provided by posting signs around the lake by the LLCOA.

If you wish further information about the treatment or wish information of the exact dates of the herbicide application, please contact the following person on weekdays from 8 am to 4 pm:

Robert Fahy (585-728-9299)



Are there any water restrictions after the herbicide has been placed in the lake?


As an affected riparian owner/user you must be informed of the restrictions of water use resulting from the proposed treatment. The water use restrictions with the above herbicide are shown below. These are prohibited for 14 days.

                Swimming and bathing

                Fishing and/or fish consumption

Livestock watering

Irrigation or spraying

Use of water for human consumption

Use of water for other domestic purposes



How do I obtain a boat launch key?


Members in good standard my obtain a launch key for their own personal use and convenience.  A one time key deposit of $25 is required upon key issuance.  If a key is lost a replacement fee of $25 will be charged.  Keys are typically changed each year and a new key may only be issued upon the surrender of the previous year's key.  To obtain a launch key for personal use, send an email request to:




Are boat launch keys changed every year?


Generally, the keys are not changed every year. However, when they are being changed (re-keyed) you will be notified at the time of the membership mailing. In a year when the boat launch keys are being re-keyed you will be required to turn in your existing key or else a lost key fee must be paid.



Can I lend my boat launch key to others?


It is NOT permissible to lend it to anyone.   Voting members may provide access to the LLCOA launch ramp for a visitor to their lake property (up to two watercraft total per day) using their personal key.   It is also NOT permissible to lend it to other property owners.  Their membership status must be verified before a launch ramp key is made available to them.  Lime Lake property owners who need access to the launch ramp should contact a member of the LLCOA Board of Directors for access.



Who publishes the Lime Lake Telephone Directory?

Where do I report errors in or provide articles/pictures for the Lime Lake Telephone Directory?


Cyndi Gradl
Arcade Herald
223 Main Street
Arcade, NY 14009
585-492-2525 (office)
585-492-2667 (fax)




How do I find out about cottage rentals on Lime Lake?


There is no one central source for rental information. However, the following resources are available:

Check the LLCOA website ­ rental section

Contact Buncy Real Estate at 716-353-8960



Where do I report lost or found items?





Who do I contact if I want to join the Lime Lake Cottage Association's Board of Directors or assist with lake functions and activites?


It is suggested that you attend a "membership meeting" to familiarize yourself with the current organization and its operation.  There are two such meetings each year ­ the "Opening Meeting" and "Closing Meeting" (see the annual schedule for exact dates).

To submit your name as a candidate for a Directors' position on the Board, personally contact an officer of the organization or send a letter to LLCOA at P.O. Box 481, Machias, NY 14101.

To volunteer for an LLCOA-sponsored activity, contact the chairperson of the event.  The schedule of events is available on the web site (www.LLCOA.ORG), in the periodic LL Newsletter, in the Lime Lake Directory, or on printed versions issued annually to paid members.




Can the pavilion in Broad Bay Circle be used for private parties?


Yes, it is available for use by paid members of LLCOA. There is a Park Permit Application that must be completed and returned to appropriate member of the LLCOA Board of Directors, along with a deposit of $175.00. The deposit will be returned if the park and buildings are clean and free of trash. There is a list of Park Policies and Procedures which will be provided if your application is approved.




What kind of fish are in Lime Lake?


There are several kinds of fish. They include: yellow perch, bluegill, pumpkindseed, black crappie, rock bass, brown bullhead, largemouth bass, walleye and tiger muskie.



If I have questions about replacing or installing a septic system who should I call?


In Cattaraugus County - Director of Environmental Heath, Machias Office at 716-353-8525.



Where do I obtain a permit to change or fix my sea wall?


Note that most all construction or alterations affecting lake shorelines are subject to advance DEC approval and inspections.  Application must be made prior to any work; timing is especially crucial for projects to be completed with the water at its lower level.  Several months are required for DEC review of applications and issuance of a permit.  Since offices and officials change, you should go to internet site for appropriate contact information, forms and additional information.  Lime Lake is located in NYSDEC Region 9.